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Episode 161: Born Twice For a Chance at Life

September 30, 2026

Guests: Keishera & Greg Joubert

NICU parents

The possible outcomes for Keishera and Greg Joubert’s baby, Cassian, with Congenital High Airway Obstruction Syndrome (CHAOS) were grim. Doctors tried one option and failed, so in an act of faith surgeons tried a highly risky partial delivery to address the airway and then hoped for a chance at life as they awaited the second delivery, weeks later. This episode is as remarkable as the Joubert’s and their son. If you need a dose of hope from parents who have “been there, done that,” this one’s for you.

In this episode, we chat about:

Learning Cassian had Congenital High Airway Obstruction Syndrome (CHAOS) and facing a devastating prognosis before he was even born
The high-risk procedure that allowed doctors to address his airway during a partial delivery — and gave him a chance at survival
The emotional moment doctors took Cassian’s first photo, knowing his birth story was unlike anything his parents had imagined
The challenges of Cassian’s NICU stay, the attention his remarkable story received and what his parents learned along the way
Why Cassian now celebrates two birthdays — and the hope his journey offers families facing congenital conditions and long NICU stays

About the guest

Greg and Keishera Joubert navigate the complexities of medical parenthood while raising their two boys. Their younger son, Cassian, was diagnosed with Congenital High Airway Obstruction Syndrome (CHAOS). Doctors performed a rare and novel fetal surgery allowing him to be born “twice.” Their family journey has included the support of family and friends, NICU training, faith and trial, and managing the emotions of the many events along the way.